Soul Reaper vs Kongor, we know who wins. (now fixed)
The other day one of our visitors commented on our Soul Reaper hero page.
This comment basically stated that Soul Reaper’s ultimate (Demonic Execution) worked on Kongor.
Intrigued we tried it out and it worked.
What this means
-With a Soul Reaper on your team it will take half the time to kill Kongor.
-Soul Reaper’s Ultimate is now the highest damage dealing spell in the game reaching excess of 9k damage (even more with Staff of the Master)
Should it be fixed or was this intentional?
We think this is a bug, it’s implication is fairly huge, making it possible to kill Kongor in under 10 seconds with a reasonably leveled team. Making the dangerous task of killing Kongor, while watching your backside, a breeze.
In terms of fair play and balancing we think Soul Reaper ‘s ultimate should be corrected as to not deal damage to Kongor.
Either way, whether this “bug” is intentional or an accident, Heroes of Newerth player’s will prioritize Soul Reaper over other heroes as to give their team the advantage.
I have to agree that’s ridiculously imba.
It is IMBA but I do feel as though there are other things that a far more imba. Yes it is some gold and a free res token. I see things as legionnaire backdooring worse than this bug.
Soul Reaper
upcoming patch:
- Demonic Execution can no longer be used on Kongor
personally i dont think this is imba at all.
you can usually already kill kongor in less than 30 seconds when your whole team is like level 18 or 17. demonic execution only really helps killing kongor if you are all level 11 or 12 and ur trying to kill kongor really fast really soon.
given the fact that heroes like warbeast can kill kongor at level 9 or 8, and without a team, i dont think this is very imba.
Official word is: next patch, bug-be-gone.
it is imba imho
i remember older dota maps having a similar issue, ie: killing rosh with 1 hit (gambler: lucky stars; axe: culling blade).
players went for rosh 10-15 mins in the game, give res to their carry and finish up in 2-5 mins.
its no big deal if your team plays smart, but a bias gold bonus and res token every 10 mins in the game is pretty unfair.
not overpowered at all , if the enemy notices you all went mia ,and they werent handicapped they would crash your kongor and most likely wreck your team(depends on situation, but often heroes in a cramped place get owned in a gank)
Also , if you do pull it off the first time , you have to rely on the enemy team being complete idiots for not stopping you the next time.
Therefore, its not overpowered or rigged , you just need to crash their kongor party
It is overpowered. you don’t see necrolyte’s ulti killing roshan in dota and therefore it shouldn’t do that in heroes of newerth. NO hero should have that ability to kill kondar that easily except the ursa equivalent but even then, he takes a much longer time to do.
@alcapowned Your not thinking hard enough about this exploit. With that insane ulti, you only need just 2-3 guys to kill kondar while everyone is fighting and noone will suspect anything. There are so many ways to to stealthily kill kondar, your argument is useless. They would be able to kill kondar at friggin lvl 6-8. Stop Bullshitting yourself, its overpowered.
Soul Reaper nerfed to all hell now, time to play others heroes. Had maxed ult with 1.2 staff buff. Ulted the bounty hunter style assasin….
He had 25% health left, the nuke took half that and he ran away. The entire match when like that, nuking people at 50% resulted in them being at maybe 40%. Idiotic nerf.
welll considerin that Troll Warlord could solo Roshan in DotA at lvl11 only by attacking it with right items after a bit of farming its not so bad.
And since soulstealer uses its ulti its wasted till the cd ends again so its a tactical decision wheter to use or not.
answer me this who ever thinks this is imbalanced: if this is imbalanced (a hero killing kongor pretty fast with his whole team when they are all about level 11. knowing that three heroes could kill kongor alone when they are at level 14) then why isnt this imbalanced: ophelia with abysall skull killing kongor at level 6, by herself, or war beats killing kongor at level 8, by himself. the only part of this that may be imbalanced is that you can ks a kongor from the other team. except kongor kills are that amazing. they give you gold and xp. unless you kill kongor early in the game, they usually dont even give you another level. and having the whole team distracted on one fight can be very bad
Look at it this way. Ophelia kills Kongor by dealing moderate damage w/ neutral creeps over like 30 seconds. Soul Reaper deals MASSIVE damage with his ult over a short period of time. .9 times amount of hp missing at level 3. If a hero with 5000 max hp has 2000 hp with some magic armor, they’re as good as dead if a noob with a terrible item combo and 100 remaining hp soul reaper is anywhere nearby, if they have a level three ult. That’s pretty imba if you ask me 0_o
almost no hero has 5k max hp. and usually, unless their magic armor is reduced,the ult doesnt do amazing damage. and why does it matter if you can kill kongor in 15 seconds when ur level 12 if you can kill kongor in 30 seconds when ur level 7? i think its obvious which one is better.
guys ursa cud solo roshan with vlads and vanguards easy at lvl 9
hahaha u guys such a noob… what a shame playing HON with u guys..
One game I played the other team (the evil team) killed Kongor on level 1. They had Wild soul, Slither, Accursed, Pollywog Priest and one more. Don’t remember the last. Somehow they pulled him and slayed him before the first creep wave had come mid. Can someone tell me how they pulled that off?
They were all level 3 when we were level 1.
Soz, this is not imba at all. Look at ursa, can kill roshan at lvl 5 with either just a vanguard or vlads(in dota). In Hon, with just steamboots and abyssal skull, i could kill kongor at lvl 9 alone with dark lady or war beast. Not a big deal at all. i hope it was intentional…Just good ward placement can counter that. whyile they are fighting, gangbang them doh!
this is not imba at all, first of all u have to reduce the health of kongor which u cant solo. other heroes can do this much easier:
slither can solo or two man (little bit easier) he just gets wards on lvl 3 and then spams the living hell out of them wards.
also ive seen pyromancer solo-ing him from lvl 1.
@Elrinth
Wildsoul has the bear, Slither has his wards, Accursed can heal, Polly…
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Well, I don’t think that he could hold Kong, but he does damage.
Just let Kong target the wards or the bear. Granted, it should have taken way longer for them to kill Kong than before the creeps even came
And Kong is weaker the earlier you face him